- [[2022-08-16 20:41:58]] [[@flancian:matrix.org]] ([link](https://develop.element.io/#/room/!WhilafaLxfJNoigHCj:matrix.org/$I2W9-rIc89c6n6H2dgSJIppXe2eZ2oz1LWXjnnhnUvY)):
  - interesting conersation between [[jerry michalski]] and [[howard rheingold]]